lions in south india
  • Hi
    a nice article today in the hindu on the predominance of lion motifs
    in pallava architecture.

    and for the matter in sinhala architecture too.

    a foreign scholar has wondered the south not being a habitat of the
    lion how come it was so popular.

    but then what came to my mind is references in the dasavthar to the
    lion must be thousands of years old.

    can someone tell us whether lions roamed these areas( literary
    quotes) in the past and their habitat has shrunk
    to my knowledge lions exist only in zoos except in gujarat. does any
    one need to correct me?

    venketesh
  • Is there any Tamil word for the lion ? Since Tamilnadu
    is not a habitat for the lions, most ancient Tamils
    would not have seen a lion. It was perhaps a mystic
    animal ( like the Yali ) associated with religeous
    practices. Knowledge of the lions might have been
    gained from the people who migrated from the north or
    through travellers.
  • can we be so sure that lions never were her in the past?
    there are so many legends abounding in the south
    for example temples like padmanabaswamy temple in trivandrum- a divya
    desam it has a legend of a lion roaming the parikrama after the
    temple is closed for the night.
    this legend is quite old
    and what about the narasimha temples mentioned in t prabandhams.

    so many lion headed vishnu temples abound in the south.


    venketesh
    > >
    > > Is there any Tamil word for the lion ? Since Tamilnadu
    > > is not a habitat for the lions, most ancient Tamils
    > > would not have seen a lion. It was perhaps a mystic
    > > animal ( like the Yali ) associated with religeous
    > > practices. Knowledge of the lions might have been
    > > gained from the people who migrated from the north or
    > > through travellers.
    > > ======================
    >
    > Reminds me of SIMMA KODI and RISHABA KODI of Pallavas - which Kalki
    > talks about!
    >
    >
    > sps
    >
  • surprising news from the wiki
    Until the late Pleistocene (about 10,000 years ago), the lion was the
    most widespread large land mammal beside humans. They were found in
    most of Africa, much of Eurasia from western Europe to India, and the
    Bering land bridge and, in the Americas, from the Yukon to Peru.


    so our anscestors could have had a few hundred lions ( on the route
    to extention)living during pallava chola period.

    venketesh
  • But we can refer to the Cankam poetry for any
    reference to the lions of Tamilnadu. P L Samy ( an IAS
    officer ) has written exhaustive books on the flora
    and fauna of the Cankam age. I'm not sure whether this
    book is in print today. It is a good reference point
    to research this subject.
  • The animal which died in Veeranam lake after a fight with wild boar, and
    thus escaped being killed by Karikalan, Vandhiyathevan and Manimekalai -
    is it tiger or siruthai?
    Sampath
  • http://www.hinduonnet.com/mp/2008/03/24/stories/2008032450580500.htm

    the article itself is very vague - not sure what the author
    intended - talking of the arrival of the pallavas etc. dont know how
    these get to print - while other scholarly works dont!!!
  • Hi vijay

    we should be also talking about the sinhalese, where there are more
    lions in mythology and history than any other culture. the sinhales
    ruling family is supposed to have descended from a lion.
    tropical lanka has had very little chance for real lions to have
    lived.
    sigiriya is one example of the lion in their culture.
    venketesh

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