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Lord Rama & ceylon
If it was mere 5000 years ago, that is 3000BC. It should have been in the collective memory, right? And it would be easier to research this, as the depth of the former surface would be not way way deep.

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Lord Rama & ceylon
Again going on astronomical dating by Prof.R.N.Iyengar, the Mahabharatam is dated around 1493-43BC.

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Lord Rama didnt go to ceylon
Dear SPS: As folklore and legends spread from one area to another, there is a tendency for any local population to create associations to a very famous puruna.

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man animal combinations in indian mythology
In Egyptian mythology, the gods usually had animal heads and human bodies.

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Gnanasambandar
KAN considers this as a legend and not history. But KAN almost believed in Aryan Invasion Theory, and so it Sarvapalli Radhakrishna. Point is we ought to take historians take with some skepticism. But it would be always illuminating to see how the …

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Muslim Invaders vs Chola Invaders
The second picture is interesting one. The impaling instrument looks like almost a cross. There is the horizontal bar right up the top, looks like it was used to prevent the body from slipping all the way down. Or did it have some other significance…

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OTHER PROBLEMS THAN HISTORY ::
Mahatma had his own limitations too. I agree eye for an eye is not the way to go - I like the thought that says it should be two eyes for one eye {was it Aaroun Shourie who said that). It might not be politically correct to state that, but such is t…

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OTHER PROBLEMS THAN HISTORY ::
You are missing my point or I am not explaining it clearly. An activity when pursued for a its own sake still has a purpose. Be it study of literature or study of History - it satisfies some thing in us. Clever argument? Unless first one studies t…

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OTHER PROBLEMS THAN HISTORY ::
Hey, no problem. I was kidding, and trying to prevent any ice formation :-)) Why can't we study history for the sake of history alone? For the moment let us not get into the benefits - for example, employment opportunities. All the digging and…

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Muslim Invaders vs Chola Invaders
History is history. You should definitely post references even if it is "our own" folks who did horrible things. And what you say hopefully we apply to the entire World. Right from King Arthur, Alexander, Biblical, Greco-Roman history et…

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OTHER PROBLEMS THAN HISTORY ::
So what happened to my name? It has come from GRS to Sir, that is cold :-))))) First like I said, studying history needs to be conducted purely for the sake of studying history. Humans differ from other animals by virtue of a very well developed in…

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OTHER PROBLEMS THAN HISTORY ::
I disagree with Surin Singh in the sense that there needs to be groups that constantly research history and keep illuminating on how our ancestors lived. If we take any ancient civilization or a modern country, the entity spends money in all sphere…

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Chola Invasions
Any book stores in Madras or Bangalore?

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Muslim Invaders vs Chola Invaders
Are you alluding to Malik Kafur?

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Chola Invasions

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Muslim Invaders vs Chola Invaders
No name it is just a crime. Subjective to a degree yes, but that is the very purpose of this thread. I wanted to see what members thought about this subject. If it was cut and dry, I would not have even posted this question, right? Did I ask if what…

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Muslim Invaders vs Chola Invaders
Yes we all are entitled to our opinions. Again, you bring the topic of justification. Where did I ever justify the Indic crimes. Just because I am attempting to compare does not mean I condone one or justify it. Can you show any one post where I cla…

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Muslim Invaders vs Chola Invaders
I don't mind any format too :-) I said I was just not used to it, and did not want to miss out the points. I did not speak ill of anything of the member or the content. I don't see in any place that I have justified any crime of Cholas or…

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Muslim Invaders vs Chola Invaders
Dear SPS: I resonate with your comments - about retaliation. I for one accept that back in the old days - things were not all hunky dory and the groups went against each others throats. It is my opinion based on reading that the Islamic hordes perpe…

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Muslim Invaders vs Chola Invaders
I am not used to your format of replying, so pardon me if I miss something. To rephrase the issue, it is not which killing is better; it is which kind of killing was more horrific in terms of scale and time. Killing has parameters attached to it li…

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Muslim Invaders vs Chola Invaders

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RRC link unexpectedly on Vijay TV
I have a family tree chart, where I can trace up about 8 nodes - equivalent to 8 generations. I am not sure about the authenticity, but chanced upon the chart that my grandfather had. Going back to 10th century is so interesting. I can hardly imagi…

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RRC link unexpectedly on Vijay TV
The Queens played did not actively participate in the administrative activities. They played important roles in the religious sphere.

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Muslim Invaders vs Chola Invaders
Appa amma vecha perae soorikkina it becomes GRS. So you can address me as GRS. A rose in any name is still a rose :-)))) No, I disagree that war on Cholas or Pandyas can not be termed as genocide. As you mention the term it self is quite recent (af…

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Muslim Invaders vs Chola Invaders
First of all, I am not glorifying any brutalities of any of our Kings. Neither I am glorifying RRC or any King/Queen's conquests. It was a matter of necessity and practice in those times. The Islamic hordes seems to have perpetuated atrocities …

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Muslim Invaders vs Chola Invaders
Killing has parameters, as I explained in the other reply. Say an army attacks a village with the intention to loot and say rape women and goes away. Say another army attacks a village with the intention to loot, rape women and eradicate the total p…

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Muslim Invaders vs Chola Invaders
The act of killing is plain and simple - taking away a life. The act of killing someone to defend is more dharmic than the act of killing someone say based on lust, right? Undoubtedly today's morals and values are a lot different than those pr…

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Muslim Invaders vs Chola Invaders
If one looks at the things dispassionately, then one would see more horrors perpetuated by the Islamic hordes than our Cholas. Our religious/cultural affinities can work both ways. One the way you suggest the other way is when we scrutinize ourselv…

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Muslim Invaders vs Chola Invaders
Agreed. War was never clean. The King had to safeguard his throne, and seek new vast lands. It entailed attacking and killing, and taking the war booty. The victors write the history. The narrators from the muslim victors seem to have documented dev…

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Muslim Invaders vs Chola Invaders
I have the book "A History of Vijayanagar: The never to be forgotten empire" by B.Suryanarain Row. Looking at these numbers the number 900000 seems to fit the pattern in those days - admitting some kind of exaggeration in reporting and obs…

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