Sanyasam - other side of the coin
  • Good thread on the other side of the sanyasins or the 'greats'

    Sanathana Dharma has always advocated detachment. Basically there are
    four major ways of attaining the supreme - Bhakthi margam, Karma
    Margam, Raja yogam and Gnana yogam.Bakthi - devotion to god, karma -
    do your duty dont expect results, Raja yoga - meditation, kundalini
    etc, gnana yoga - SELF REALIZATION.

    Every one who were successful in self realization were sanyasins,
    though there are exceptions like king Janaka, father of Seetha. It
    stresses on detachment.

    Being detached is the toughest thing which is repeatedly stressed in
    all the walks of a Hindu's life. Attachment leads to rebirth, more
    sins etc. Detachment leads to mukthi.

    Thats why all the greats took the path of detachment. for mortals like
    us, leaving the family suffering seems to be a great sin because we
    see through the attachment perspective. WE DONT HAVE THE DIVINITY TO
    SEE THE SAME THING FROM THE OTHER SIDE and thats why we are not great
    and people like buddha, vivekananda, ramana are great.

    Most of us are obsessed with emails - even a single day i cant skip
    reading and replying mails. I feel if i dont reply, the group will not
    function. This is attachment - the I concept. If i try to get detached
    from this bondage, and get out of it, mail vandha enna varati enna.
    why should i be bothered about the groups functioning?

    Same is the case with the 'greats'. Once they get detached, what if
    the family survives or not - they dont care because the earthly things
    take care of its own and they dont run the show. SIN comes into
    picture when something is done with attachment. when detached, where
    is the point of sin?

    Krishna says that for the betterment of a country, one village can be
    sacrificed. The 'greats' sacrificed only a couple of their family
    members for the welfare of the whole world. Then how come its a sin?
    For mortals like us, Bhagavat gita clearly says, Karma marga is the
    best. but for 'greats' gnana marga.

    I have tried to some extent throw light on - why the act of the
    'greats' is not a crime. Other learned people can throw more light so
    that i can get cleared if i have said something wrong.
  • W e have to beleive in the concept of the divine call
    most of these people received that before quitting normal life

    why robbers became saints, kings became beging monks.


    you dont know when you will get a call but it must have been a
    powerful one.

    let me put in your computer terms.

    micropsoft bill gates calls you and asks you to join immidietly. will
    you even spens a moment thinking about your present job????

    I can hear murmurs that company and family arent same.

    sure
    but then isnt god also greater than mr. gates

    venketesh
  • Beautiful explanation Mr.Venkatesh and Mr.Satish although in different
    styles (Mr.Venkatesh in typical "ezhuthaalar" style) Exactly what i was
    hoping somebody would explain rather than an arguement.
    Thank you
  • the divine call

    a adivasi dacoit in the forest who cant even pronunce the name of
    god becomes a saint.

    I am talking about valmiki and his 'mara mara'


    look at sundaras case.

    just as he is about to marry he gets a divine call. but the greatest
    thing is that while god denied him one wife alloeed him to marry
    twice later.
    was it a boon or bane sundara only knows for his wife paravai gave
    him hell.

    but the point is god has chosen a opportune moment to make a dramatic
    entry into the saint's lives.

    for appar it was a stomach ache, for sambandar it was the hunger for
    his mothers milk

    why should thinnan a tribal get lost in a forest and see a shiva
    linga. his calling was the stream of blood from the lingams eye.

    what is a blind mans life worth in the forest. how long can he last
    but then thinnan answered his divine call. recognising it as
    servitude to his heavenly master.

    the mangani episode was the divine calling for karaikal ammaiyar.

    not only in hinduism. we have it in other religions too. take the
    case of joan of arc who got a divine call.


    the divine call is just god telling a man "drop everything you are
    doing. I need you"

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