Tiruvenkaadu
  • Location: Tiruvenkadu near Mayiladuturai,
    Shiva: Venkadar, Swetaranyeswarar
    Ambal: Pann Moitta Inmozhiyaal, Bhrama Vidya Nayaki
    http://www.indiantemples.com/Tamilnadu/s263.html


    Inscriptions from the time of Aditya Chola I (870-907), Raja Raja I
    (10th - 11th cent) & his descendants speaking of endowments made by
    the Chola rulers to this temple are found here. Vikrama Cholan
    built the Vikramacholan Tirumandapam (1118-1135).

    The present structure of the temple as well as the beautiful bronze
    images in this temple are a contribution of the Great Chola emperor
    Raja Raja Chola I. Some of these bronzes were recovered in treasure
    troves unearthed here. The Ardhanareeswarar and Chandeswarar
    bronzes are now housed in the Chennai Museum. Natarajar,
    Somaskandar, Devi, Bhoga Sakthi are housed in the temple, while
    images of Subramanyar, Rishabhavahanadevar, Bhikshatanar,
    Kalyanasundarar Kannappar and others are housed in the Thanjavur Art
    Gallery.
  • 1. thiruvengadu is nearer to poompuhar
    2. its the only existing temple that was mentioned in valmiki ramayan
    3. swetha means white and aranyam means kaadu( ven- kaadu)
    4. idol behind the amman temple holds a child in the hip. reportedly
    uma devi and sambandar who refused to tread ito the town seeing "
    uurellaam sivalokam, mannellam siva lingam) recently i noticed a
    similar statue in thirukadaiyur also.
    5. 3 thiirthams with water noticebaly different in temparature.


    has a wonderful set of devarams

    kan kaattum nuthalaanum kanal kaattum kaiyaanum.....


    .... venkaattil uraivaanum vidai kaattum kodiyanE.
  • beautiful....

    do you have more info on below temple as well


    Nithya Kalyana Perumal Temple :

    This holy shrine is one among the 100 temples called Tirupathy. The
    goddess Lakshmi is also called as `Thiru'. The presiding diety is
    holding her on the left side. So it is called Thiru-Idathu-Eanthai
    which over a period of time came to be called as Thiru-vidanthai.
    Tamil Saint Thiru Mangai Alwar has sung the glory of this holy place
    in ten places in his famous `Pasuram'. There are several messages
    relating to this is available in the stone scripture of first Raja
    Raja Cholan and Vijaya Rajendra Cholan
  • Thiruvenkaadu also close to my heart. Recently I had been there.

    I think Venkatesh family constructed Bhuthan Temple nearby AmbaL temple- or some other structure (?).. It is also Bhuthan's kshetram

    One Archakar told me that there are only very few Archaka families left in the town now and future looks bleak.

    Due to the stature of Navagraha kshetram, number of pilgrims are visiting the Temple. It is a very good sign.

    Saiva Samaya first Acharya Meykandar's father was asked to take bath in the tank before birth of the great Acharya. It is said the bath at Tirevenkaadu Tank is suggested for those who do not have kids.
  • This story reminds me of saying by Ramanujacharya who went up the Tirupathi hill on his knees saying that the whole hill is the Lord himself.
    It would be curious to know of the history of the sthalam vs gyanasambandar's entry there. That will give clues of the real time line on ramayana.

    One can confidently say that Skanda puranam is much earlier to ramayana's time, I would say close to Macha avatar. Looking at instances in thirupugazh where Arunagiri cites Hanuman reading between lines of his command to search for Mother in the southern direction, in the process, gets blessed by Muruga at Kathir kamam (which opens another link of where is the Lanka portrayed in the epic, according to the vision of Arunagiri , Hanuman seeks Skanda's blessing after burning lanka and returning to India - so geographically the locations point to lemuria.....again).
    Ref: Song about Kathirkamam in thirupugazh - udukka thugil vendum, again a melter for those aanmigam sinthanaiyalars and tamil literacy lovers.
  • Thiruvidanthai

    this temple is close to chennai
    on the ecr close tocrocodile bank.
    a ps group ( sivaram sathish vk etc)visited this 3 months back.
    sivaram should be having the photos.
    RRC edicts were in the temple.
    varahar here and adi varhar in mahabalaipuram.
    at first sight this sea facing temple seemed so out of place. but
    straight to the east across the canal and 20 km of land we have singa
    perumal koil( narasimar) straight to the east (another 20 km)we have
    sriperumbudur another holy vaishnava shrine

    venketesh
  • Kalki mentions in Parthiban kanavu that siruthondar's wife was from
    thiruvenkadu... is it the same? any idea? Because I know one Venkadu near
    sriperumbudur... thiru being a mariyaathai peyar, how does one distinguish
    which venkadu is being referred to?
  • sambanda visited it in 8th century ad only.

    but then in ramayana its reported that (" like shiva killed yama in
    swetharanya on the banks of kaveri......)

    need to check the real lines.

    but then when appar visited thiruvanmiyur in 8th century it was
    already named after valmiki.
    venketesh
  • Hi
    thanks dhiwaker for recalling.
    my wife's grandfather built the (kal thirupani)budhan shrine and
    amman shrine ( hence many vidya names in their family)
    it happened in 1942 and a kalvettu on the entry of the amman shrine
    says so.
    during the recent kumbabishekam also they did some work for the gold
    kumbam.
    venketesh





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  • Ennapaa madan

    eesanukku "pillai kari" samaithu pottaval thiruvengaattu nangai.
    (periya puranam)

    districtayE change pannukirai.

    venketesh
  • http://www.shaivam.org/nachirut.html

    Burnt the lust, which could burn all the discipline, with the
    beautiful eye between the brows - that Lord's graceful abode is
    thiruchcheN^kAttaN^kudi . In that town came the man of unimaginable
    great deeds paranychOdhiyAr . He learnt AyurvEdam, saMskR^itam and
    the usage of arms in a flawless way. With a matured knowledge he
    came to the conclusion that crown all the arts is crawling snake
    ornated God's feet and nurtured steadily the growing love for that
    comforting feet. Serving the devotees of the Deedless, he undertook
    the position of the head of the king's army. He won the battle of
    vAdhApi exhibiting his splendid valiance, brilliance and knowledge.
    When the king was wondering about his magnificent performance the
    ministers told him as paranychOdhiyAr was the servant of the Three-
    eyed Lord there was nobody to defeat him. Hearing that he was a
    devotee the judicious king was afraid that he had sent a devotee to
    the killing battlefield. He gave him a lots of gifts and properties
    and requested him to serve the Lord dedicating his time for that.
    paranychOdhiyAr returned to his town and spent the all time in
    serving the sha.nkara at the gaNapathIchcharam temple of the town.
    He got married to the girl veNkAttu n^aN^gai who stood for the
    principles of the devotee.



    For the devotees of the God ornated by feather, flowers and flowing
    river, the devotee of thriuchcheN^kAttaN^kudi everyday used to host
    feast and then only eat. This he followed as a ritual without
    failure and his hospitality was known in all the directions. He
    being so humble in the presence of the limitlessly famed devotees he
    was known as chiRuth thoNdar (small servant). While his service was
    continuing blissfully praying the unmeasurable feet of the Lord the
    couple got a child. They named him chIrALa dhEvar . To celebrate the
    birth of the child who arrived like the fruit of the austerities the
    devotee made it a grand festival for the entire town. He donated
    liberally to the devotees and made all the rituals with the sound of
    vEdas reverberating the sky. The kid was brought up with utmost care
    of the parents. When he was three years old they sent him to the
    school to learn the worth learning arts. That time the Sun that rose
    to drive away the illusions and enlighten the world in shaivam - the
    prodigy thirunyAnachampan^dhar (1) came there. Holding his soft feet
    on his head and heart the devotee saluted him. The saint stayed in
    his place for some days and he praised the honest and whole-hearted
    service of chiRuththoNdar in the hymn he sang there.

    The Lord who is independent of external enjoyment wanted to
    demonstrate that the great are capable of doing deeds which are
    terrific even to think of for others. In place of lightning like
    matted hair He took dark cloud like matted hair, in place of the
    young growing crescent - a crescent shaped stripes of Holy ash, in
    place of snake ear-ring - a floral ring, in place of the ornament of
    skulls - a shining string of white stones, in place of the fierce
    elephant skin cladding - cladded in clothe, obscuring the black
    throat, with unlimited grace in the eyes, smile in the lips, beauty
    throughout the body, holding up the spear, the kazal worn in the
    legs inviting everybody to salute that form of Mercy, the Supreme
    came in the form of a bhairAgi. The God who feeds the entire world,
    acting as if He was terribly hungry came to the devotees house
    enquiring where it is. Only his wife was there in the house. The
    Lord in the form of bhairAgi asked was there the servant of Lord in
    the house who everyday gives food for the devotees. Realizing a sage
    had come the chaste thiruveNkAttun^aN^gaiyAr came out and said
    saluting him that her husband had gone out and invited Him to come
    inside the house. The bhairAgi replied He would not come inside the
    house where a woman is alone. Immediately the humble lady went to
    the other extreme of the house and told Him that as her husband did
    not find any devotee that day to host he had gone searching for one
    and would be really happy if he knew that a devotee had come on his
    own. She asked Him to sit inside the house. The Lord appreciated her
    that they followed in the right way the discipline of family life,
    but still He would not enter the house without the devotee present
    and would be waiting for him under a tree near the temple.

    To the sincere servant who came back sad unable to find any devotee,
    his matched wife told that a devotee from the north in the form of
    bhairAgi came there and was waiting near the temple tree for him.
    With growing eagerness he went to the bhairAgi and saluted to be
    asked by Him "Are you the great small servant ?". The great even
    though they consider themselves small would be acknowledged as great
    only by the Truth ! The humble servant replied that he was not
    praisable in the group of devotees but out of mercy the devotees
    call him so. He told it was the effect of all the good deeds he
    would have done, for Him to come to his house. The sage who claimed
    to come from the north said the food He wanted was very difficult to
    prepare. He wanted a life to be cooked that too a human in the age
    not exceeding five, having no physical impairments, should be the
    only child for the family and the child s parents should cook it
    happily ! The devotee with uncomparable dedication said there is
    nothing in the world that is impossible to achieve for the devotees.
    Saluting Him he came back home.

    The devotee told his wife the type of food the sage asked for. They
    decided to cook their loving young son for the devotee to have food.
    Father went and brought the child from the school. He bathed him,
    cleaned his body completely. With the mother holding the child s
    hands and legs, the child enjoying their great deed, father cut his
    head and did the unimaginable deed. The couple of synchronized
    thoughts were not sad but were happy about serving the devotee.
    Removing the head considering it would not be good for feast the
    loving mother cooked the rest with other food materials. Then the
    superior servant invited the sage to accept the feast, begging
    pardon for any delay he would have made in preparing the feast.
    Washing the Feet that kicked the death to death, they sprinkled that
    holy water on themselves and throughout the house. His principled
  • Yes, staunch devotees do find odd ways to worship - karaikkal
    ammaiyar (in her her skeleton form) - is said to have proceeded to
    kailash. Feeling that it would be a great sin to place her foot on
    those sacred grounds, she made the last part of the journey on her
    head. that would have been quite a feat...walking upright in human
    form with two legs up the trimala hills was itself an herculean
    effort for me
  • Hi

    out of respect for karaikal ammaiyar I think either appar or sundarar
    refused to enter thiruvalangadu and sang from outsid the town.

    venketesh
  • Orcourse, i have heard that the legend of ammaiyar is even prevalent
    in cambodia and a few depictions of her at seen in the khmer temples
  • Exactly, and when we visited there last week, we were told that karaikal
    ammayar came to thiruvengadu from palaiyanur on her head. She attained
    samathi in thiruvengadu - rathina sabai - portion of the rathina sabai is
    hence sealed. I was also told that she never travelled to kailash.
  • Physical travel is one and travel on astral planes is another. I believe Karaikal ammaiyar as much as many many other saints travelled far off places through the later mode. Bogar history has quite a bit of examples and Arunagiri's songs depict of temples which physically he was not documented to have visited. I know of people who can describe places and temples accurately without having moved out of their homes...
  • Dear SPS,

    I was replying to

    Vijay said:
    Yes, staunch devotees do find odd ways to worship - karaikkal
    ammaiyar (in her her skeleton form) - is said to have proceeded to
    kailash. Feeling that it would be a great sin to place her foot on
    those sacred grounds, she made the last part of the journey on her
    head.

    and

    Venkatesh said:

    out of respect for karaikal ammaiyar I think either appar or sundarar
    refused to enter thiruvalangadu and sang from outsid the town.

    Hence I told about thiruvalankadu. Sorry if i have derailed the
    conversation....
  • aw.... my bad my bad.... apologies!
  • >
    > Sembian Madevi changed this from Brick to Katrali..

    Her efforts seem to cap every major temple - since we are in the mood
    to compile lists - would be great to run up a list of temples that
    were rebuilt in stone by sembian madevi ....am sure it will be a
    impressive list and an apt tribute to this noble lady.. there is but a
    glancing mention of her in wiki, we could possibly compile and add
    there as well
    vj
  • Dear SPS,
    Is it not Thiruvalangadu where the Shiva-Parvathi dance duel happened? And
    Karaikkal Ammayar saw it? Not Thiruvengadu, perhaps? Correct me if I am
    wrong.
  • Hi
    intha madanai thiruneermalai pakkathla oru panai marathula katti
    vachu uthaikanum


    let me clarify

    thiruvalangadu- rathna sabhai ,thiruvallur district, karaikal
    ammaiyar fame. site of cosmic dance by shiva

    thiruvengadu- adi chidambaram, nagai district, famous for pattinathar

    no more confusion!!!!!!!!!!1

    venketesh
  • Kudamuzha a book by Dr. Kudavoil deals with 5 dances of shiva in an
    extremely elegant manner

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    > Much much Later, for the sake of Karaikkal Ammayar, exclusively the
    > couple performed a friendly " Sabha Dance " ! at Thiruvalangadu !
    >
    > anbudan /
    > sps
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