Civilisation
  • ok ... let me add what I know about the current theories on how the
    Universe began... First of all..this breaking down of elements into
    earth,fire, water, air and space is outdated (I think it was also
    prevalent among the greeks).

    The most commonly accepted theory these days is that of the Big Bang,
    which states that ALL matter that currently exists in the universe was
    initially present in a singularity.. a singularity is basically a
    point of infinite density.. so all of it.. matter, space everything
    was within this infinitesimal point of infinite density...

    A question that can be asked is then this: So what was "outside" this
    point? Stephen Hawking, the physicist, in his book "A Brief History of
    Science" says that the question is not valid under the conditions.
    (Unfortunately, I don't think there are too many people who can even
    think of NOT asking the question.. people like us... and I am sure we
    won't understand the answer either"..

    Hawking also goes on to say that time did not exist... Time starts
    with a reference point, and the reference point for that is the Big
    Bang, which is when this infinitely dense dot blew up and expanded to
    the Universe as it is today.

    There are also a few competing theories as to what happens now:

    A) One theory says that the Universe has reached a steady state of expansion

    B) Another viewpoint is that the Universe will finally start
    contracting on itself till it comes to a Big Crunch, that is all the
    matter in the Universe will again start contracting till it becomes a
    singularity.. an infinitesimally dense point...

    At this point, time again ceases to exist.. On the whole this theory
    is the one that is closes to the Hindu view of Epochs happening one
    after the other.

    C) Yet another theory is that the Universe will keep expanding..

    One must remember that these are all theories... and theories only
    exist to explain observed phenomenon.. they are not the truth per se..
    so we don't know what actually happened :)

    Alos, I am not in favor of digging up old Hindu (or Muslim or
    Christian etc) mythology and reinterpreting it in light of new
    discoveries and saying: See our sages said this ages ago...

    Hope this helps,
  • > Earth (Prithvi) - Water - Fire - Air - Space - I was not able to
    arrive at
    > as the which one of these five existed first .. in the
    beginning .. then
    > which was the beginning .. ?

    Our scriptures have gone even one step beyond this and have covered
    areas where nothing existed. It is called shoonya - andhakaaram-
    kali. Buddhism talks about it and hinduism talks about it.

    According to science, the first thing to come into existance before
    5 elements was sound. Our scriptures say everything came out
    of "aum" - the popular OM.

    I asked Dr.JB recently who was goddess kali and what is she supposed
    to represent ? He said kaali is nothing but an embodiment of kali -
    the darkness - the andhakaaram that existed before everything else
    came up. That is why she is dark in colour. The darkness that
    surrounded everything before anything else.

    Alas ! at a later date she was made to subdue to lord shiva - just
    to emphasise superiority. That's beyond this topic, anyway:-)

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